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06-04-2008, 03:00 PM #1
Counter balance shaft oil
787 & 947 Counterbalance Oil Check
The 787 and 947 engines have a counterbalance oil reservoir that the Sea Doo manual says needs to be checked every 50 hours. The 787 though has what I consider a design flaw since there is no seal between the crank main bearing next to the cylinder and the crank counterbalance gear. Only a Labyrinth washer separates the counterbalance reservoir from the rear of the crankcase. In time, any oil added to the counterbalance area on a 787 will eventually dissipate so if possible, I would add oil whenever possible to the reservoir to prolong gear life. Also note that if you get water in the crankcase of a 787, it will also get into the counterbalance reservoir so you would need to remove the drain plug under the reservoir and get the water out. If not, your engine won’t be around for long!
As for the 947 (951), the manual doesn’t tell you how to check the counterbalance oil or how high the oil should be, but when I get that info, I’ll add it!
Below you can see what plug or fitting needs to be removed to check the reservoir level.
The manual states the 787 & 787 RFI should have 30 mL (1 oz) SAE 30 motor oil in the reservoir.
The manual states the 947 & 947 DI should have 40 mL (1.35 oz) Jet Pump Synthetic Oil or standard gear oil in the reservoir.
(note that 1995-1996 787 don’t have a check/fill plug. Oil is added when the engine is assembled and that’s all you get)
In my opinion, on the 947 (951) just adding oil especially to low/old oil seems like a bad fix. The oil not only should be checked, but should be changed maybe every 200 hours. If you have your engine out,you might consider adding a fitting to the lowest point of the reservoir so oil can be drained.
I may work on a kit to offer for this one soon if demand warrants it!
787/787 RFI
947 Carb
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It say's 95-96 models don't have this access plug I was wondering if anybody has fabricated a fitting to do this?
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06-04-2008, 03:20 PM #2
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On 95 & 96 models, you are instructed to use XPS synthetic in the c/b shaft cavity when installing. On these engines, residual gas/oil mix is always transferring, via the crank gears.
The RFI's I haven't broken down to verify a separate cavity.
951's have a separate cavity.Last edited by 96XPSS; 06-04-2008 at 06:46 PM. Reason: typo
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06-04-2008, 03:33 PM #3
So basically don't worry about it.Thanks for the imput
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06-04-2008, 03:36 PM #4
Dont worry about it on 800 & 800 RFIs.
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06-04-2008, 03:39 PM #5
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06-05-2008, 05:57 PM #6
mannnn that is a hell of a c\b pic ...never seen nothing like that !!!
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06-06-2008, 09:57 AM #7
Can anyone post up a pic where to put the oil on my 951s and What should I use? Is synthetic OK?
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06-06-2008, 10:41 AM #8
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06-06-2008, 10:54 AM #9
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06-07-2008, 07:50 AM #10
[quote=skirtchaser;664870]
787 & 947 Counterbalance Oil Check
The manual states the 947 & 947 DI should have 40 mL (1.35 oz) Jet Pump Synthetic Oil or standard gear oil in the reservoir.
My manual on a 2002 RX with a 951 motor says to use 30 weight oil for a carbureted engine. It would be nice if they would tell you how to check it and what level it should be at when it's in the hull. I'm in the process of putting my engine in and it looks like it would be a bear to check once everything is bolted on the engine. If anyone comes up with a plan to do this please let us know. It may save alot of heartburn and money for someone.
BH
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