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    Anyone tried the new Fizzle supercharger impellers?

    Anyone got any data or time on any of the new fizzle wheels?


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    🤷🏻♂️Anyone?

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    There's more than 100 of them out there now. Let me know if I can help answer any questions. Thanks!

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    I've been testing a bunch of wheels the last few weeks including the new Z1, Z2 and Z3 wheels and they are very nice and very smooth wheels. It will all depend at what rpm you spin them will depend on what boost they will make. On my particular builds, my customers are targeting the stage 3 8800 maptuner tunes for pump gas reliability so most of my testing has been in the 8600-8750 rpm range. The thing with the fizzle wheels is they continue to build boost well after other brand wheels start to plateau so the higher you spin them, the more boost they make. The Z3 wheel will make 30lbs at 10,300 and its rated at 27-28lbs at 9700 rpm. Same thing with the other 2 wheels in their respective boost ratings. For my findings in the popular pump gas tune rpm range of 8600-8800 these were my test results:

    Fizzle Z1- 15-15.5 lbs @8550-8600 rpm (afrs 11.5-11.6)
    Riva 17 F1- 15-15.5 lbs @8550-8600 rpm (afrs 11.6-11.7)

    Fizzle Z2- 16.5-17 lbs @8550-8600 rpm (afrs 11.7-11.9)
    Riva 20 F2- 16.5-17 lbs @8550-8600 rpm (afrs 12.0-12.2)

    Fizzle Z3- 19.5-20 lbs @8700-8750 (afrs 12.0-12.2)
    Riva F3- 19.5-20 lbs @8700-8750 (afrs 12.1-12.3)
    ET24- 19.5-20 lbs @8700-8750 (afrs 12.1-12.3)

    All tests were performed on the same ski (2016 fzr) with the riva high flow intake, riva gen 3 cooler, riva shaft kit, ribbon delete, riva stage 3 3 bar MAP and 8800 limiter, deans team 1000cc injectors, stock fuel pump with stock internal regulator, stock drilled waterbox and riva rear exit exhaust. Air temps were 70-72* F and water temps were low 70's with about 60-65% humidity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jetpilot785 View Post
    I've been testing a bunch of wheels the last few weeks including the new Z1, Z2 and Z3 wheels and they are very nice and very smooth wheels. It will all depend at what rpm you spin them will depend on what boost they will make. On my particular builds, my customers are targeting the stage 3 8800 maptuner tunes for pump gas reliability so most of my testing has been in the 8600-8750 rpm range. The thing with the fizzle wheels is they continue to build boost well after other brand wheels start to plateau so the higher you spin them, the more boost they make. The Z3 wheel will make 30lbs at 10,300 and its rated at 27-28lbs at 9700 rpm. Same thing with the other 2 wheels in their respective boost ratings. For my findings in the popular pump gas tune rpm range of 8600-8800 these were my test results:

    Fizzle Z1- 15-15.5 lbs @8550-8600 rpm (afrs 11.5-11.6)
    Riva 17 F1- 15-15.5 lbs @8550-8600 rpm (afrs 11.6-11.7)

    Fizzle Z2- 16.5-17 lbs @8550-8600 rpm (afrs 11.7-11.9)
    Riva 20 F2- 16.5-17 lbs @8550-8600 rpm (afrs 12.0-12.2)

    Fizzle Z3- 19.5-20 lbs @8700-8750 (afrs 12.0-12.2)
    Riva F3- 19.5-20 lbs @8700-8750 (afrs 12.1-12.3)
    ET24- 19.5-20 lbs @8700-8750 (afrs 12.1-12.3)

    All tests were performed on the same ski (2016 fzr) with the riva high flow intake, riva gen 3 cooler, riva shaft kit, ribbon delete, riva stage 3 3 bar MAP and 8800 limiter, deans team 1000cc injectors, stock fuel pump with stock internal regulator, stock drilled waterbox and riva rear exit exhaust. Air temps were 70-72* F and water temps were low 70's with about 60-65% humidity.
    Great info!

    Is it possible to run the Z1 or F1 with the stock injectors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YAMA HAMA View Post
    Great info!

    Is it possible to run the Z1 or F1 with the stock injectors?
    Yes absolutely. Typically Riva uses the stock svho injectors and stock MAP sensor on their 17 lb wheel tune. On other tunes set up for stock wheel and injectors I used the Riva fuel pressure regulator to get the fueling up top. We were just getting quick numbers on the wheels so I wasn’t about to revert the whole build back to stock injectors and change the tune for a 10 min test when the goal of the build was to run 18-20lbs of boost in the 8600-8800 range. We ended up staying with the fizzle Z3 wheel as it felt great all around and the afrs were spot on across the board on the maptuner stage 3 tune. We will see how the wheel and tune responds in the cooler weather. Hopefully it will self adjust and maintain the 12.0-12.2 we saw in the cooler temps. It’s back to being 80+ again so I will have to check with the customer and see what afrs are looking like in the heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetpilot785 View Post
    I've been testing a bunch of wheels the last few weeks including the new Z1, Z2 and Z3 wheels and they are very nice and very smooth wheels. It will all depend at what rpm you spin them will depend on what boost they will make. On my particular builds, my customers are targeting the stage 3 8800 maptuner tunes for pump gas reliability so most of my testing has been in the 8600-8750 rpm range. The thing with the fizzle wheels is they continue to build boost well after other brand wheels start to plateau so the higher you spin them, the more boost they make. The Z3 wheel will make 30lbs at 10,300 and its rated at 27-28lbs at 9700 rpm. Same thing with the other 2 wheels in their respective boost ratings. For my findings in the popular pump gas tune rpm range of 8600-8800 these were my test results:

    Fizzle Z1- 15-15.5 lbs @8550-8600 rpm (afrs 11.5-11.6)
    Riva 17 F1- 15-15.5 lbs @8550-8600 rpm (afrs 11.6-11.7)

    Fizzle Z2- 16.5-17 lbs @8550-8600 rpm (afrs 11.7-11.9)
    Riva 20 F2- 16.5-17 lbs @8550-8600 rpm (afrs 12.0-12.2)

    Fizzle Z3- 19.5-20 lbs @8700-8750 (afrs 12.0-12.2)
    Riva F3- 19.5-20 lbs @8700-8750 (afrs 12.1-12.3)
    ET24- 19.5-20 lbs @8700-8750 (afrs 12.1-12.3)

    All tests were performed on the same ski (2016 fzr) with the riva high flow intake, riva gen 3 cooler, riva shaft kit, ribbon delete, riva stage 3 3 bar MAP and 8800 limiter, deans team 1000cc injectors, stock fuel pump with stock internal regulator, stock drilled waterbox and riva rear exit exhaust. Air temps were 70-72* F and water temps were low 70's with about 60-65% humidity.
    Nice info. Iím doing the deans team n/a cam set up and Iím going with the fizzle z1 wheel. Rpms will be 9100

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    Good deal! You should see around 20-21lbs at 9100 with that wheel. I haven’t personally tested it that high but that’s what it’s rated at around that rpm. We are loving the Z3 spinning at 8750-8800 making 20-20.5lbs on pump gas. We target more of a pump efficiency setup for longer range cruising as we find the setups that target higher rpm are more for acceleration and a few more mph but the mid range pump efficiency isn’t as good and we find them burning through fuel to quickly so we go bigger wheels and pitch them up to load the engine harder and increase pump efficiency. Two ways to skin a cat so to speak. All comes down to what your goal is when setting them up.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mmafighter View Post
    Nice info. I’m doing the deans team n/a cam set up and I’m going with the fizzle z1 wheel. Rpms will be 9100

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