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    Quote Originally Posted by imp0ster View Post
    I always have a ton of worm clamps and any boat or ski I double up every clamp(going in reverse direction) as long as there's enough meat to clamp on. If there's not enough room T-Bolt it. You will not see a performance gain from hoses. In high boost it's safer and might give you a hair bit better throttle response.
    I have never had any kind of luck with worn gear clamps on anything boost related

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    Quote Originally Posted by 05_RXP View Post
    I have never had any kind of luck with worn gear clamps on anything boost related
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
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    Agreed x2. I bought a set of t bolt clamps for my factory hoses. I figured ill use them until I upgrade to a XX or 142 ET. After I upgrade ill buy fizzles and just use my t bolts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Agreed

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    that's because you screwed the clamp on backwards Scott.

    I've personally never had issues. My car ran T-Bolts when I was pushing 20psi but anything else I've run worms.

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    How do you screw a worm clamp on "backwards"?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 05_RXP View Post
    Looks like the fizzles come with worm gears clamps and the Rivas come with t bolt clamps
    Get the fizzle, they'll be fine. I've been running them for years. I have them on both my 19PX and 18TX. Don't over tighten the clamps and damage them and you'll be fine. I tighten mine till they are about flush with the rubber unless the rubber is real dense then a little less. That hose to the Charger needs to go on nice and square and you have to make sure the clamp is square to the charger inlet as well. It's not hard to get it crooked and then over tighten the clamp and basically squeeze the hose out.

    Get a catch can as well do capture that sludge that shouldn't be going in your hoses and IC. You'll want to take your IC out most likely and clean it. I used gasoline as pretty much anything else didn't work when I had that issue on my 16 PX300. Lost 200 RPM from sludge in the IC. Also important not to overfill the oil so you get less blow by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinoMite View Post
    Get the fizzle, they'll be fine. I've been running them for years. I have them on both my 19PX and 18TX. Don't over tighten the clamps and damage them and you'll be fine. I tighten mine till they are about flush with the rubber unless the rubber is real dense then a little less. That hose to the Charger needs to go on nice and square and you have to make sure the clamp is square to the charger inlet as well. It's not hard to get it crooked and then over tighten the clamp and basically squeeze the hose out.

    Get a catch can as well do capture that sludge that shouldn't be going in your hoses and IC. You'll want to take your IC out most likely and clean it. I used gasoline as pretty much anything else didn't work when I had that issue on my 16 PX300. Lost 200 RPM from sludge in the IC. Also important not to overfill the oil so you get less blow by.
    Kinda like this? I have a set of hoses coming to try out so we shall see what happens. Completely stock and shes a milk shake. Will hopefully be adding a catch can and intake within the next little while.
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    So Im going to bump this back up. I found a set of BRT tubes or pipes on eBay for a decent deal. Item number 333303516728 on eBay. I thought I usually buy Riva or fizzle to give something else a try. So these show up nicely packaged. Plastic coating to protect the pipes. Also included in the box are 4 quality awab clamps.

    I figure everyone talks about how junk the factory tubes are. After removing them I would say they are more like cheap rubber hose. I was a little bored as waiting to get my tune sorted out. I would pressure test the factory hoses and the new ones. Ill start with the BRT hoses as they are a 5 ply silicone hose. They are STIFF..... They have an outside circumference of 10 just at atmospheric pressure. I added 10psi of compressed air no difference in outside circumference. I then bumped it up to 20 psi as max most guys run is 17-23 with chargers. To my surprise there was no swelling on these hoses.

    Now it was time to repeat the test with the factory hoses. I measured at atmospheric pressure and the outside circumference was 9.875. Time to add 10 psi. You can see the hoses starting to expand as adding pressure slowly , measure the outside circumference to be at 10.375. I thought about going to 20 psi but stopped at 18 as the hoses looked like they were going to burst. Measured outside circumference and they were at 10.5.

    Now for the install this was the not so fun part. With where the cooler is mounted and the stiffness of the new tubes took a little finesse work. Dry silicone couple on dry aluminum is not happening. I had some auto glass cleaner wipes I used to clean the end of the new pipes and they slid on like butter. I have no luck with gear clamps so I went to my stash and busted out some t bolt clamps I had to fasten them down securely. They fit perfectly, no kinks or excessive bends.

    Now I finally got my maptuner and ecu figured out. It was time to test. I used the same tune. 8300 with no limiters. My speed was same for my 300Rxpx 74.5 mph. I did not have my VBOX to see if any times were different, but I will tell you the throttle response is night and day different. The ski feels so much crisper with these on.
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    Thanks for taking the time to post up results. I may have to spring for some charge pipes this winter.

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    05_RXP, how much??

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