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    The purpose of the RXP...

    It would be a long debate but lets just say the RXP opened the 70 mph door for noobs who can't perform mods on their 2 strokes.

    It also made the Ultra an oxymoron, taking the "fastest ski on flat that won't handle for shit" title.

    The RXP is an interesting ride, I tried it, didn't like it for my kind of riding but I can understand why some people like it.

    At least it raised the 'OUT OF THE CRATE TOP SPEED' bar.

    BUT

    A triple piped GPR or STXR still costs 1500 to 2000$ to rebuild.

    Void your RXP's warranty and expect a 6000$ rebuild if things go wrong.

    I know it, Jerry knows it and is ready for it.

    Are you?
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    well said 11!

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    so wait. it's not more expensive to hit 79mph in an RXP until you have to rebuild the engine?

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    Re: The purpose of the RXP...

    Quote Originally Posted by 11
    It would be a long debate but lets just say the RXP opened the 70 mph door for noobs who can't perform mods on their 2 strokes.

    It also made the Ultra an oxymoron, taking the "fastest ski on flat that won't handle for shit" title.

    The RXP is an interesting ride, I tried it, didn't like it for my kind of riding but I can understand why some people like it.

    At least it raised the 'OUT OF THE CRATE TOP SPEED' bar.

    BUT

    A triple piped GPR or STXR still costs 1500 to 2000$ to rebuild.

    are aboVoid your RXP's warranty and expect a 6000$ rebuild if things go wrong.

    I know it, Jerry knows it and is ready for it.

    Are you?
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    by rebuild do you mean replace with new? the complete rxp engine is $6000(complete) to replace.....the yami triple about $3800(incomplete). to rebuild after you toast a piston the yami is cheaper but who out there has toasted a piston in an rxp or blown a engine for that matter.(see myth section) now who has ever heard of a yami engine blowing? i have personally rebuilt lots.

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    Mark you miss the point.

    Have your 2 strokes modded and go 80 and it's still 1500$ to rebuild, 2000 at worst including labor.

    Have your RXP modded and it's still 3 times as much money to fix.

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    Im trying to understand your logic 11. You are saying that in the unlikly event that an RXP needs a rebuild, you have to go out and buy a brand new motor? Who says you cant just do a NORMAL rebuild? Using your logic (how I see it, please correct if Im wrong) youd have to go out and buy a brand new complete motor for your GPR to make this argument even remotely fair.

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    No.

    A 4 strokes rebuild IS expensive, I know someone who had his F12X totalled because motor took a shit (water ingestion) and fixing it was just more money than the value of the ski.

    It was in 2004 and the ski was a 2003 left over with 15 hours on it.

    And 6000 isnt the value of a new RXP motor, it's what it costs (at least) to rebuild asuming the core is ok, including labor.
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    I dont think anyone knows the true cost to have an RXP engine rebuilt. I havent heard of any yet, doesn't mean they arent out there. I have heard of seadoo replacing engines under warranty. The cost of a brand new complete RXP engine, complete with supercharger is $5800.

    I think i could rebuild one for half that cost. Am i right in thinking that Rotax Racing?

    What people dont realize is how simple these overhead cam engines are. If you understand the 4 stroke principals, this engine is EASY!!

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    exactly jerry. in the unlikely event you need to replace a piston in an rxp it does not cost $6000. it cost more than a two stroke triple but not that much more. i have rebuilt lots of them. to rebuild an rxp engine including the following...

    3 new pistons
    gasket set
    cylinder boring
    valve re-seating
    labor to re and re engine from hull and rebuild it @80/hr

    ...costs about $2200 us assuming the crank is fine.(add 200 if it needs bearings) not bad imo.

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    Yeah well 2200 for a top end IS expensive.

    How much is a crank?

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