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    Yamahas legendary reliability ???????????????????????????????????

    Seriously ? This must be self proclaimed im just not seeing it... and yamaha seems to be getting a free pass as of late.

    1: cracked pump tunnels
    2: cracked hulls
    3: cracked intake grate areas
    4: blown supercharger clutches
    5: snapped timing chains
    6: cracked / warped cylinder heads
    7: oil in the bilge
    8: water in the bilge

    anything else i missed ?

    Been looking to upgrade the wifes 09 FZS for a couple years now, yamaha has un-earned our business, she actually wants a red 310 s.e. now

    when this was sea-doo they were crucified, if this were kawi they'd be out of business..... Those who bleed blue see the world through Yamaha colored glasses. Yet where i ride there are hundreds of them..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris288 View Post
    Seriously ? This must be self proclaimed im just not seeing it... and yamaha seems to be getting a free pass as of late.

    1: cracked pump tunnels
    2: cracked hulls
    3: cracked intake grate areas
    4: blown supercharger clutches
    5: snapped timing chains
    6: cracked / warped cylinder heads
    7: oil in the bilge
    8: water in the bilge

    anything else i missed ?
    You covered it all and it isn't news-I learned this years ago after having the hull on my '09 FZS fail and the pump tunnel crack on my '12 FZR, among many other engine problems.

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    In their defense, VXs prior to the TR1 are a staple of rental fleet reliability. All of the hot rod boats are less reliable than the "corolla" boats. Just how it be. Now the hulls on these TR1 powered VXs are just plain turds. I will gripe about that all day long and twice on Monday when I am patching up rental boats.

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    and this is in the kawasaki section because?


    every manufacturer has their inherent problems. kawasaki couldnt keep motors together when they first came out with supercharged 4 strokes between pump and GIO issues and heads cracking, then the later models had ECU issues and such. great ski but not meant for speed. yamaha has/had clutch issues, heads cracked, hulls cracking. seadoo has hulls cracking on the newer hulls, clutch washers, leaking intercoolers, etc etc.

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    No one manufacturer-loyalty here ... but I think what might be wrong with the OP's fuzzy math is that it's not the failures, but rather the successes that support any reliability record. Aka, you just don't get a plethora of forum-posters complaining about how darn well their ski is doing. i.e. I searched this site (and others) every which way from sunday to try and tally the timing chain failures, as I was trying to map a curve on the 3 most affected years. I got to about 22 distinct cases reported online (eliminating the dups). So 22 skis - really?? Out of how many sold / divided by the likelihood to post about it, etc.... complex math... let's say 1% of these were avid forum posters. Still, how many were sold, had no problems?? Squeaky wheel gets the oil - Internet (forums) can get pretty Squeaky.
    So the wife has the 09 FZS and lookin' to upgrade . . . has "it" had all or any of those issues . . . Or has it been pretty (cough cough) "reliable" these past 9 years? Becuase I can't imagine you'd still own it otherwise.

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    I hope you’re not bragging about Kawasaki’s reliability. I have 2 310s in the shop with piston issues. One 17 and one 16. The 17 has been there since April.
    They all have their issues, but one large factor to consider is how they handle warranty work. A friends fzr burned up from a faulty thermostat and yamaha sent them a motor. He had the ski back in a couple weeks. Not only did Kawasaki refuse To supply a motor, but even sent a bare head casting that the shop had to build in peak season. The shop also had to ship them the crank to check because they did want to supply that either.
    still waiting to get it back.

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    The "legendary reliability" reputation, at least in the 4-stroke world, was earned with the MR-1 platform. The motors, as well as the boats and FX hulls, are rock solid. The common failures are pretty easy and inexpensive to resolve. And they are very easy to work on. I like that you can remove the motor from the FX hull without disassembling anything and completely re-assemble it on the bench before dropping it back in.
    Last edited by grumpy_steven; 09-13-2018 at 06:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimeBandit View Post
    No one manufacturer-loyalty here ... but I think what might be wrong with the OP's fuzzy math is that it's not the failures, but rather the successes that support any reliability record. Aka, you just don't get a plethora of forum-posters complaining about how darn well their ski is doing. i.e. I searched this site (and others) every which way from sunday to try and tally the timing chain failures, as I was trying to map a curve on the 3 most affected years. I got to about 22 distinct cases reported online (eliminating the dups). So 22 skis - really?? Out of how many sold / divided by the likelihood to post about it, etc.... complex math... let's say 1% of these were avid forum posters. Still, how many were sold, had no problems?? Squeaky wheel gets the oil - Internet (forums) can get pretty Squeaky.
    So the wife has the 09 FZS and lookin' to upgrade . . . has "it" had all or any of those issues . . . Or has it been pretty (cough cough) "reliable" these past 9 years? Becuase I can't imagine you'd still own it otherwise.
    Exactly. I have worked for a dealership sold over 800 1.8 powered skis and only seen 2 chains fail. Warranty is never questioned by Yamaha they just want to get the ski back on the water.

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    Not to mention but almost every item on that list has been addressed by Yamaha in the past few model years. Last I heard the list of problems with the other brands hasnít really changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allenor View Post
    Warranty is never questioned by Yamaha they just want to get the ski back on the water.
    Well, that's a crock! And they've had trouble with their boats blowing out jet pump cleanout plugs for the last 18 years!

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