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    New 4 Place trailer

    Picked up the new 4 place trailer on Thursday and loaded the skis Friday night. Trailer is long! 35 feet.
    I had problem pulling it with the Tahoe. Glad I went with everyone sugestion on getting the trailer with the brakes. All 4 wheel have disk brakes. Awesome. I figure the weight of the trailer and skis are some where around 3800 lbs. I move everything to the very back. With this set up and each ski full of fuel I am at 410 lbs of tongue weight. Plan on taking it to the truck scale to confirm.

    Took the rig to Madison in the morning and it towed awesome. Set crusie at 65. No problem. However, The tongue seems to flex alot. May add another 20 foot 3x4 tube down the center to stiffen it up.

    Here are some pics. It is an awesome trailer.
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    Went with a spare, Also the trailer plug is 5 wires, when the reverse lights come on it shuts off the surge brakes so when you back up they disengauged.
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    Nice rig. In the first picture, it appears as though there would be too much tongue weight set up like that. But the picture is small and fuzzy on this end. Have you verified tongue weight percentage?

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    May want to consider heavy duty springs on the Tahoe. I just put them on my Ram pickup a few months ago. Night and day difference in the ride and handling with a trailer attached.

    Im sure the trailer does flex some. Im pretty sure my double trailers flex some too. I wouldnt be too concerned about that.

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    Crazy,

    I always use 10% of weight for a rule for tongue weight. With this setup I have 410 lbs measured with a tongue weight scale fully fueled. I estimate trailer weight of around 3800 to 4000 lbs but I plan on taking it to the truck scale verify.

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    I would drop it to 250 lbs... Those tahoes have weak rear suspension (unless you have air ride)

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    R33pwrd,

    Do not know if I can get much lighter the axles are fixed on the trailer. Tahoe is not sagging much less than an inch and does not bounce going down the road. I cannot even tell I have a trailer back there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r33pwrd View Post
    I would drop it to 250 lbs... Those tahoes have weak rear suspension (unless you have air ride)
    With a really long trailer the bigger concern is emergency handling. A sudden lane change or really hard braking can result in the trailer 'steering' the truck.

    The geometry of concern is the distance from truck rear axle to trailer rear axle, and the distance from truck axle to tow ball pivot. The trailer is effectively a really long lever, especially the portion of the trailer weight that is sticking out behind the trailer axles.

    More tongue weight can help keep the trailer and truck combo stable during extreme driving moments.

    My understanding
    is that the ratio of the weight forward of the trailer axle compared to the weight behind the trailer axle is a major factor in handling characteristics of long trailers.

    If the truck rear suspension is sagging (but the trailer weights are within the truck weight ratings) I would rather add air bags or lifter springs rather than lighten the trailer tongue weight.

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    I was just judging by the looks. I am sure that Keith will chime in or somebody else, but isn't the rule 10% of the load up to a maximum of 300 or 350 pounds? Something like that? I guess if it is towing well for you, that you might be all set. Too bad that the axles are fixed. You may have to load the two front skis backwards. LOL.

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    towing a trailer that long needs some special attention to suspension brakes and steering.

    Air bags are strongly suggested. Help the springs last longer and provides for a smoother ride with adjustments

    chains look a little small for that rig, and for sure you want a brand new ball and receiver bar.

    I'd also be adding some marker lights, as many as the tarffic will bear.

    and some major insurance coverage.

    When things go bad on a quad place, they go bad in a huge hurry.

    I'd be adding an electric nose jack, just because I'm an old fart.

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