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07-23-2014, 10:25 PM #1
Smokeysevin's juryrigged standup (js550) project
I was fortunate enough to pick up this beauty a few weeks ago and have been working on getting my trailer and myself ready for another set of cylinders. So far I have been working on getting everything to a good starting point which has entailed repairing a few damaged pieces of fiberglass, doing lots of research, removing a ton of extra parts from a box that came with the ski, and doing some general cleaning.
To start I checked the compression which was at 50 psi on one cylinder and a whopping 0 on the other. So I pulled the head and found the pistons intact but the rings glued to the pistions. So I tore into the motor, pulled the pistons, removed the rings and cleaned them, gave the cylinders a light hone, and tossed it all back together. Its now at 120 psi on both which is crap but its enough to get me through until I find a 650, 750, 800, or some parts for this poor little motor.
As it sits now its got:
an old school umi finger throttle
A bn44 carb with the pilot screw
A tauceti flame arrester and adapter
Choke blade removed
Some kind of aftermarket pipe (actually 2 plus a stocker)
A west coast waterbox (which may need some welding)
Tubbies
A jetsports plate (in need of love)
Aftermarket grate
New odi rogue shorty grips
Rule 350 bilge pump (not installed)
Solas impeller (and another stainless)
Rev limiter bypass
Fuel water separator removed
And fuel tank vent relocated
Because the Tubbies were fit where they are I had to get creative to keep the exhaust from rubbing on the exposed screw so there is a temp hose clamp there.
The battery is my nearly dead one that I purchased for my 15f 5 years ago rather optimistically.
The waterbox strap mounts broke so those need to be reattached at the front, I am open to suggestions on what to use.
The hull needs lots of work on the bottom deck and the whole thing needs paint as its currently over 7 different colors, not just shades of orange but completely different colors.
The hood has a few drop marks that need some epoxy and there is a redbull can blocking the other air intake (probably because the pipe is too short)
The turf all has to be replaced, and probably widened up because damn that thing is narrow.
The nose needs some love and I would kill for a new handlepole, I really like the tube ones but the stock one is in remarkably good shape.
As it sits now I plan or abusing it until the winter at which point hopefully I can find a cheap motor or rebuild this one. The crank and bottom end are in surprisingly good shape and I believe that it had a seal job within the last few years which is good for me since its sat for 2 years.
Last edited by smokeysevin; 02-12-2020 at 09:34 PM.
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07-23-2014, 10:27 PM #2
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08-06-2014, 09:11 PM #3
Had a busy evening, I had to reglass the rideplate inserts with bigger threaded ones. I cleaned the holes, threaded the stainless inserts in and checked for fit. Then removed them, added some high strength fiberglass epoxy and sent them home. I also cleaned the shitty powder coating off the rideplate while in there and recessed the plate back where it lines up with the hull.
The bilge pump is a 350 gph rule non automatic attached to some 1/8th inch aluminum plate which is held onto the thru hull cover and glued to the hull on the bottom. The only problem there is that the pump is at an angle so the tube is a little goofy I may make up a hard tube later.
The pipe on the ski right now is an orange county jet ski pipe based on the markings.
The carb is giving me trouble, its the bn44 and even when set to stock settings it doesnt want to run. If I use the pimer it lives for a few seconds which tells me that its not getting enough fuel but I cant find anything obviously wrong. When I checked the carb it was in good shape with no obvious issues although st the same time I didnt really want to spend any money on it since I want a 650 to toss in it.
Finally I finished the control cover in the footwell by installing my sealed bilge pump switch and the primer nob where the stock fuel selector went and where the stock choke lever went.
Sean
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08-08-2014, 03:42 AM #4
Very coolio! Love the old subs...lol
You may want to be on the lookout for a West Coast 5 gal. tank. Great upgrade, if you like to go on long rides.
The BN may need a fresh diaphram or ?? You check the pulse I'm sure right? And then the return and vent.
I'd dump the primer. I put my hand over carb first start of the day and rarely need to again. Once in a while but rarely. Primer bulbs do not with stand this fuel we get these days. If you want to use one make sure you keep an extra on hand.
I have thought about cheater sponsons (tubbies) but am too hard core...lol Maybe in a few years when I am 60.
Are you coming to the Hahn? Or World Finals? I could bring mine so you can spin on it. They are just stupid fun.
I have a milled head and I'm 1 over on the slug. Burnt one last year so rings and 1 piston fresh. Next time I will have to go up another.
It pulls all the way thru up to top speed. It is mid 40's. Thought it was 50 but friends gps lied to me.
Those trick poles are hard to come by.
Subbed. Gotta watch this one...
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02-10-2020, 10:54 PM #5
Well, it has come to this. My life has spiraled totally out of control and I now have to actually finish projects instead of just getting more and forgetting about them.
Teardown
I got started doing some work on the ski and found it to be in worse shape than I thought. There was lots of glass and bondo "reinforcement" on it that I had to chip out. The inner surface wasn't even roughed up...
I may still try and split the deck but I am not sure at this point. Its a lot more flimsy than I thought and I am worried I will just crack the deck more.
Having spent some time hunched over it yesterday, it looks like there is probably enough access to do the reinforcement and repair if I just lean the ski over 90 degrees. I would repair one side at a time.
I already managed to toss a chisel through the nose once in the process so I am a little worried about a repeat performance. The outer edge of the bond rail also looks like it was glued or repaired in a few places when looking at it from the bottom so I am worried I may hit hard spots.
Time Spent:
6 Hours on and off
Tools Used:
1/2" Wood Chisel
3/4" Wood Chisel
1" Wood Chisel
Hammer
Shop Vac
Existing "Repairs" Removed:
3
New Damage Done:
1 new hull vent near nose
Muscles Strained:
3
PPE Used:
Half Respirator
3M Worktunes Heaphones
Safety Glasses
Gloves
Sean
Exit Wound
Nose "Repair" Before
Nose "Repair" After
LeftoversLast edited by smokeysevin; 02-21-2020 at 08:45 AM.
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02-11-2020, 10:45 PM #6
Stripping the hull part 1
Got the ski totally stripped with the exception of the pump and driveline yesterday. I cleaned up one side of the inner engine bay and rolled the hull up on its side to try and get better access to it.
I think I am going to end up making a template for the reinforcement today or tomorrow. I have some 3:1 epoxy and 5 yards of 50" wide 1208 on the way from uscomposites for the repairs. Once that's good I am going to throw a coat of interlux engine bay coating on it.
Current plan is to clean up the inside of the engine bay and do a layer of cabosil thickened epoxy along the bond line. I will sand that flush and then do a layer of 1208 on the inner engine bay surfaces.
The hood flange is cracked in a few spots so I was thinking about running the reinforcement up to the top and then filling the gap up with more of the cabosil or some chopped strand and cab.
When I removed the motor mounts the gaps were filled with some seriously rancid water, is there any reason I can't fill the holes in them and the bottom of the battery box up with more thickened epoxy?
I found what looks like 3 factory holes in the bulkhead that have raw foam exposed on them. If I stick my finger in them the foam is pretty wet. Does this foam get waterlogged? I can pickup the hull now that its stripped and I am not that big of a dude so its not outrageously heavy.
Time Spent:
8 Hours but who is counting?
Tools Used:
1/2" Wood Chisel
3/4" Wood Chisel
1" Wood Chisel
5" Random Orbital Sander
5" Cloth Mesh 80 Grit Sanding Pads
Rockwell Oscillating Multi Tool
Hammer
Shop Vac
Steel Wire Brush in Drill
Sheets of Hydroturf Removed:
1
New Damage Done:
Scraped Paint
Muscles Strained:
4
PPE Used:
Half Respirator
3M Worktunes Headphones
Safety Glasses
Gloves
Materials Ordered:
1 Gallon 3:1 Epoxy
Cabosil
Microspheres
5 Yards 1208 (50" wide)
Roller
Pizza Cutter
Sean
Tray with turf removed
Peeling paint in tunnel
Crusty Bottom
Cracks Near Motor Mount
Inside Nose
Nose "Repair"
Cool Fiber Mesh Sanding PadsLast edited by smokeysevin; 02-21-2020 at 08:44 AM.
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02-16-2020, 08:46 PM #7
Inner Glasswork Part 1
The hull is sitting on its side now with the inside was stripped out, scuffed with 80 grit and wiped with alcohol to remove excess dust. I put one layer of 1208 fiberglass and 3:1 epoxy resin from us composites on the inside edge of the hull from the inside upper edge of the hood flange to the bottom. I ran the glass about an inch past the corner onto the lower portion of the hull. I used the us composites . I cleaned out most of the loose glue and mixed up some cabosil resin to fill the gaps.
I have enough cloth to do another couple layers, is it worth doing or is one enough? I will be doing additional reinforcement on the nose and handlepole area and the hood flanges.
The hull came with a set of blowsion tubbies on the outside held on with wood screws that stuck through like punji spikes, I was thinking about throwing some nut-serts or ufo style mounts in the holes so they sit flush with the inside of the hull. The tubbies are foamed on and glued with some kind of silicone, do they need the fastners on them or are they just for install purposes.
Time Spent:
4 Hours, stop judging me!
Tools Used:
Rockwell Oscillating Multi Tool
Shop Vac
Mixing Cups
Mixing Stick
Materials Used:
8 OZ Denatured Alcohol
4 Blue Shop Towels
16 OZ Resin/Hardener
24" 1208 Cloth
8 OZ Cabosil
1 Hazard Fart Paint Brush
New Damage Done:
None
Muscles Strained:
2
PPE Used:
Half Respirator
3M Worktunes Heaphones
Black Spider Gloves from Blowes
Beer Consumed:
1 Shiner Prickly Pear
Percentage complete:
25%
Sean
Glass and Patch
Glass and Patch
Layer Overlap near Hood Seam
Bond Line
Nose Reinforcement/Repair
TemplatesLast edited by smokeysevin; 02-21-2020 at 08:45 AM.
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02-21-2020, 08:46 AM #8
Inner Glasswork Part 2
I rolled the hull over onto the other side and repeated the process. Fortunately my template worked on both sides and I ended up with reasonably well fitting repairs on both side that actually match.
Moving forwards, do I need to knock this down to bare smc to paint it? I am concerned about mixing paint chemistry being incompatible with the existing garbage and having some hard work just go drooling down the side of the hull. I am leaning heavily towards doing a black bottom deck with a dark steel gray top deck, black turf, and either a black or gray handlepole. I would then go with black thru hull fittings and reinforcements.
I was also planning on throwing in a stripped 650 long block into the hull but came across a deal on a complete 750 so that is the new plan. Eventually I will swap over to the rhass driveline setup (https://www.rhaasproducts.com/Produc...ode=550750pump) but for now I am just planning on running the 550 setup so I can get some water time in. That means that the red top 650 is for sale, if you want it shoot me a message. It is a complete good long block 160psi per the ebay seller with new crank seals. It spins super smooth by hand. I have a flywheel and magneto on the way for it and can toss a cover on if it will sell quicker that way.
Time Spent:
2 Hours, look I was bound to eventually figure out this stuff...
Tools Used:
Rockwell Oscillating Multi Tool
5" Orbital Sander
Shop Vac
Mixing Cups
Mixing Stick
Drill with Step Bit
1" Chisel
Materials Used:
8 OZ Denatured Alcohol
4 Blue Shop Towels
12 OZ Resin/Hardener
24" 1208 Cloth
1 Hazard Fart Paint Brush
Painters Tape
New Damage Done:
2 Lost Rivets in the rear hull during sponson removal
Muscles Strained:
0
PPE Used:
Half Respirator
3M Worktunes Headhones
Black Spider Gloves from Blowes
Beer Consumed:
0 (forgot to put them in the fridge
Percentage complete:
40%
Sean
Nose Reinforcement
Cabosil on Bond Line at Rear
Side Repair
Side with additional Repair Required Shown, the hull is pretty lumpy there
Tubby with Paint Removed
Sponson Area with Paint Mostly Scraped (this thing is like a jawbreaker)
Gross
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02-21-2020, 09:15 AM #9
Inner Glasswork Part 3 (Where you feel like you are ready for some corners so you get wrecked)
I rolled the hull upside down and attempted to layup the inner hood flange and hood to nose flange. Things didn't go well... I setup the hull on 2 bar stools and crawled under it. The hull did not fall and squish me so that was nice.
I think I tried to run the strands the wrong direction because it was like trying to keep a tape measure bent down. Either way, it was a pain in the ass and ultimately didn't work properly. I was really hoping for good news when I went out this morning but it was not to be. I will end up cutting back the loose edge somehow and will redo the edge with some cloth to get a good wrap. Fiberglass is really not my thing though. I really want to get to the fun part of bolting stuff on but I know I need to do it right so slog away with fiberglass I must.
Time Spent:
4 Hours this was shit and I epoxied my head multiple times. I look like guy fieri now.
Tools Used:
Rockwell Oscillating Multi Tool
5" Orbital Sander
Shop Vac
Mixing Cups
Mixing Stick
Dremel with roto-zip bit
Materials Used:
8 OZ Denatured Alcohol
4 Blue Shop Towels
12 OZ Resin/Hardener
8" 1208 Cloth
1 Hazard Fart Paint Brush
Painters Tape
misc clamps
door shims wrapped in painters tape
New Damage Done:
none
Muscles Strained:
1
PPE Used:
Half Respirator
3M Worktunes Headhones
Black Spider Gloves from Blowes
Items of Clothing Ruined:
Pair of jeans
Long Sleeve Thermals
Welding Jacket
T-Shirt
Leg Hair Removed when taking ruined jeans off due to epoxy drips:
40%
Percentage of Garage Floor Epoxy Coated
12%
Percentage complete:
42% (This was an abject failure which I will probably not be redoing)
Sean
Peanut Butter Filled Motor Mounts
MMMM Peanut Butter
Don't forget to sand your peanut butter
Safety First Gents
My Workspace Last Night. It was awful.
Clamped In Place (This was taken 12 hours later after it cured. I left the hull upside down last night)
Nose that didn't stick, either I ran the glass the wrong direction or it was colder than the resin wanted to tack up. It didn't stick for shit.
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02-21-2020, 11:56 AM #10
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