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    Schiff Already Laying Groundwork For Rejecting Election Results: Must Impeach Because We Can’t Ensure Fair Election



    Threat to democracy.


    “The President's misconduct cannot be decided at the ballot box, for we cannot be assured that the vote will be fairly won,” lead impeachment manager Rep. Adam Schiff says during his opening statement at the Senate impeachment trial. https://t.co/14mXcvjVzh pic.twitter.com/F2OZhLYx7v
    — CNN Newsroom (@CNNnewsroom) January 22, 2020


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    Ranking Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein Left Senate During Schiff Testimony – Said “Goodnight” and Went Home…






    Many people are becoming aware the Senate impeachment trial is an exercise in politics, nothing more. The votes are already decided; the trial is simply a pantomime.


    To highlight the point, Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein, the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, simply walked out during the trial when Adam Schiff was testifying; said “goodnight” and just went home.


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    (WaPo) Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) walked out of the Senate chamber, said “good night” to two reporters standing nearby, and left the Capitol. Senators are expected to stay in the chamber for the entirety of the arguments. (link)



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    WOW...but if Trump uses a few billion to put towards the wall...something we actually know where the money is going and being used for...Rod has a fit.


    ‘Pentagon Racks Up $35 Trillion In Accounting Changes In A Year’



    Rotten to the core and the source of most of the problems on this planet.


    Via: Bloomberg:


    The Pentagon made $35 trillion in accounting adjustments last year alone — a total that’s larger than the entire U.S. economy and underscores the Defense Department’s continuing difficulty in balancing its books.



    The latest estimate is up from $30.7 trillion in 2018 and $29 trillion in 2017, the first year adjustments were tracked in a concerted way, according to Pentagon figures and a lawmaker who’s pursued the accounting morass.


    The figure dwarfs the $738 billion of defense-related funding in the latest U.S. budget, a spending plan that includes the most expensive weapons systems in the world including the F-35 jet as well as new aircraft carriers, destroyers and submarines.


    “Within that $30 trillion is a lot of double, triple, and quadruple counting of the same money as it got moved between accounts,” said Todd Harrison, a Pentagon budget expert with the Center for Strategic and International Studies.


    The Defense Department acknowledged that it failed its first-ever audit in 2018 and then again last year, when it reviewed $2.7 trillion in assets and $2.6 trillion in liabilities.

    While auditors found no evidence of fraud in the review of finances that Congress required, they flagged a laundry list of problems, including accounting adjustments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Q in Arizona View Post

    BUT... BUT... the pesos, the campaign promises, the PWC races...



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    Quote Originally Posted by YoYamma View Post
    BUT... BUT... the pesos, the campaign promises, the PWC races...



    Rod: but..but..but Trump is like the rest and lied about campaign promises.

    *Trump works his ass off dealing with subversives at every move, finally gets a chunk of money to put towards a campaign promise*

    Also Rod: but...but...but...Trump is putting money towards a campaign promise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Q in Arizona View Post

    United States[edit]

    There has also been testimony on the involvement of the United States and its collaboration with Israel,[132][133] with one report stating that "there is vanishingly little doubt that [it] played a role in creating the worm."[38] It has been reported that the United States, under one of its most secret programs, initiated by the Bush administration and accelerated by the Obama administration,[134] has sought to destroy Iran's nuclear program by novel methods such as undermining Iranian computer systems. A diplomatic cable obtained by WikiLeaks showed how the United States was advised to target Iran's nuclear abilities through 'covert sabotage'.[135] A New York Times article as early as January 2009 credited a then unspecified program with preventing an Israeli military attack on Iran where some of the efforts focused on ways to destabilize the centrifuges.[136] A Wired article claimed that Stuxnet "is believed to have been created by the United States".[137]
    The fact that John Bumgarner, a former intelligence officer and member of the United States Cyber-Consequences Unit (US-CCU), published an article prior to Stuxnet being discovered or deciphered, that outlined a strategic cyber strike on centrifuges[138] and suggests that cyber attacks are permissible against nation states which are operating uranium enrichment programs that violate international treaties gives some credibility to these claims. Bumgarner pointed out that the centrifuges used to process fuel for nuclear weapons are a key target for cybertage operations and that they can be made to destroy themselves by manipulating their rotational speeds.[139]
    In a March 2012 interview with 60 Minutes, retired US Air Force General Michael Hayden – who served as director of both the Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency – while denying knowledge of who created Stuxnet said that he believed it had been "a good idea" but that it carried a downside in that it had legitimized the use of sophisticated cyber weapons designed to cause physical damage. Hayden said, "There are those out there who can take a look at this... and maybe even attempt to turn it to their own purposes". In the same report, Sean McGurk, a former cybersecurity official at the Department of Homeland Security noted that the Stuxnet source code could now be downloaded online and modified to be directed at new target systems. Speaking of the Stuxnet creators, he said, "They opened the box. They demonstrated the capability... It's not something that can be put back."[140]

    You need to learn about what really goes on in the world. Obviously you knew nothing about what actually took place here.
    So no, President Obama did not give Iran nucs nor did he seek to. That is similar to most the ridiculous stuff you guys throw about on here.
    Look if he was truly about giving Iran nuc capabilities I'd be right in line saying what an idiot and actually that would be grounds for potential treason to me.
    But there is a lot that goes on, including in Yemen, and Ambassador Stevens was asked and told he should not return as a proxy war had begun there and was in the works when he went and the Embassy had been shuttered for a reason.
    But you probably do not know much about the facts behind the things you post as you just like what fits your narrow world view and political leanings.

    Furthermore I suggest you consider the options that are really available when it comes to these matters: You can disengage, sanction, saber rattle, start a war, blockade, etc. while they do what ever they'd like as these governments are nothing like ours, and they will pursue nuclear weapons. Or you can engage, have an inspection regime, limited sanctions based on cooperation, and all of this generally enhances your ability to get hard data via channels you will not have by pursuing option #1, etc.. You get the picture. Or maybe you do not. BTW North Korea had nuc capabilities well before President Clinton was in office. They lacked a sophisticated (ICBM) delivery system, which they have now. I'm sure an American President gave them this as well.... right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by YoYamma View Post
    Red flag yourself. This fossil at least had the sense to retire. Her idiot 2A views were shaped by tragedy.
    You misogynistic views born of mommy issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlovebk View Post
    Red flag yourself. This fossil at least had the sense to retire. Her idiot 2A views were shaped by tragedy.
    You misogynistic views born of mommy issues?
    Um, lots of people have tragedy without becoming gun-grabbing tyrant scum. I should have figured you would jump up and defend Feinstein—you've served as her creepy apologist here before—but we have zero respect for any tyrant who says, 'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in.'

    I don't know why you say she 'retired" — just 15 hours ago she was sitting at the sham-peachment hearings, and just a few months ago she was begging Trump for more gun control laws. It's obvious her evil tentacles are still wrapped all over the government.

    I thought you said you have a life? Shouldn't you be checking your local sea levels, or cleaning your Pelosi doll collection or something? And since you brought my deceased mother into this, why don't you crawl back up into your own 'mommy' and then tell us how you support abortionist monsters like Obama, Ginsberg and Sanger. Jerk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rlovebk View Post
    I did complain about the wars President Bush began and President Obama continued, though he said he would end them. He listened to the NSA team and stayed the course. Which was a mistake in my book. We should have never went into Iraq which was a good buffer and check/balance against Syria and Iran. I have no problem with the decision to take out Soleimani.
    Syria was never a war that was began by us and we mostly used SF and proxies. This was a hedge due to the Soviets making a play. Assad was about to be toppled and they could not have that. Also we turned our back on the Kurds, which have been a consistent and reliable ally in the region.
    The left is just as guilty as the right as far as manipulating the news and the populace.
    I proposed we should leave when President Obama was in as well as stating we should never have went to Iraq when President Bush was CIC. And I will not be squelched by anyone, nor stand for misrepresentations. Afghanistan was righteous as they harbored Bin Laden and his ilk. Iraq took our "Eye" off the ball, and was a poor decision. ISIS was born out of Bremer's inept decision of de-Baathification of the structure in Iraq which also kept Iran and Syria in check. Once that was done it spiraled out of control.
    Bottom line for President Trump will be does he keep his promises? Most Presidents, including Obama, do not for a variety of reasons. When campaigning they tend to tell their base what they want to hear. Then they do whatever they want once elected.
    Just like that wall paid for with pesos - BS.
    Bremer? De-baathification?? Huh??? ISIS came from Syria, not Iraq. It formed after Assad emptied his jails of jihadists in order to muddy the waters & make the west more reluctant to arm anti-gov't rebels. Problem was, Killary & your boy Maobama gave them weapons anyway. Obama created ISIS!

    And, NO, we didn't abandon the Kurds. We pulled out a handful of troops that were left there & the attacks lasted all of about 5 min before Trump put Erdogan in check.


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