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    Ok i see it like on the 03 Genesis setup

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    That's another consideration too I guess, riding area and maintenance. When Jay tells me some of the things he's seen working all those years in Jersey (mostly salt water skis) it makes me cringe. Stuff that us fresh water guys don't always sea.... He told me the same thing about seeing salt water getting to the seals after time so he likes to double them up. Either way will work.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyA View Post
    That's another consideration too I guess, riding area and maintenance. When Jay tells me some of the things he's seen working all those years in Jersey (mostly salt water skis) it makes me cringe. Stuff that us fresh water guys don't always sea.... He told me the same thing about seeing salt water getting to the seals after time so he likes to double them up. Either way will work.....
    Like on the MSX thru hull seals you won't see that up here in fresh water

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    Yeh, fresh water is sooooooooooo much easier on everything. Salt water can be tamed, but it's alot more work!!!

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    Lugs,
    I like to slide a Mag crankshaft seal "inside" the PTO single lip crank seal. This is only possible if you have the older 1050 stlye "Thick" PTO seal. I just grease is up and slide it in there.. It isnt a perfect solution, but it makes me feel better, as the single lip seals wear out quickly. This is why an OEM seal is best.

    4 Stroke Jay is spot on the money... The more circlips & crank seals the better...

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    give me a call today!

    Randy

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2&4strokepolaristech View Post
    If Art will so graciously let me video his bottom end!

    Jay
    You guys are spending WAYYYYY too much time together!!!!



    Sorry for the thread jack. Had to bust this guys chops though....


    Now back to your regulary scheduled program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanP View Post
    Is there a way to use a double seal setup on a motor that originally had one? Looking at this one, it seems like it wouldnt hurt anythign to trim those little nubs off the one seal. I'd love to convert to a double seal if there is a way to do it on the 900 Im rebuilding.
    Originally a single seal, single clip set-up. Now a double seal, no clip set-up. Seal tabs in place.
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    What kind of seals are those with the flange on them?

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    If you guys would look at the location of the pto bearing next to the web on the guys crank you will see the bearing is not as close to the web as an o.e.bearing sits, this is why the seal looks like its stuffed in there, the inside chamfer of the bearing is not as deep as the o.e, so the bearing sticks out a little further than normal, this is not a big deal but does cause an interference issue with the nubs on the seal. Cut the nubs back on the seal and it works fine. The early style seal that was used up till 2000 used 2 c-clips and a single rear seal and works on this crank without any issues, but the 01 and up domestics using the 2 seals are a much better set up. Trimming a small amount off the nubs on the seal will not hurt anything. Polaris had issues with the single rear seals rusting out and causing a lot of w/a issues so they switched to the 2 seals in the back much like what they used on the Fuji motors.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom V View Post
    ... Polaris had issues with the single rear seals rusting out and causing a lot of w/a issues so they switched to the 2 seals in the back much like what they used on the Fuji motors.
    What are 'w/a issues' ?

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