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    Quote Originally Posted by K447 View Post
    That would be most helpful. Photos of the Evinrude part would also be nice

    Which Polaris TPS would this be a replacement for - pigtail or non-pigtail versions?
    The replacment would be for the non pig tail Tps
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by race jase View Post
    The replacment would be for the non pig tail Tps
    Cheers

    yew!

    And Watcon to me the webber looks completely different to the non-pigtail TPS

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    Hey race have you had a chance at all to check out the model no for the tps? Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by K447 View Post
    That would be most helpful. Photos of the Evinrude part would also be nice

    Which Polaris TPS would this be a replacement for - pigtail or non-pigtail versions?
    Keith,
    I looked at the Evinrude Parts Catalog and scanned through several model years of FICHT/Etec engine models for the throttle linkage parts diagram.

    Every single model listed Evinrude Part# 5001793 for the "Throttle Sensor". The image showed this to be a non-pigtail version and looks very similar to the one you and Randy have pictured in your posts. The Evinrude web site showed limited availability but I bet if you found the right dealer they may have the parts in their own stock.

    It should be part# in this diagram:

    KJ

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    Arrow Evinrude TPS 5001793 might be usable substitute for Polaris TPS 2410183 (non-pigtail)

    Quote Originally Posted by johnsonmtz View Post
    ....Evinrude Part# 5001793 for the "Throttle Sensor". The image showed this to be a non-pigtail version and looks very similar ...
    Now we might be getting somewhere

    A quick Google search for Evinrude 5001793 comes up with these;

    Evinrude Johnson TPS Throttle Position Sensor 5001793;
    throttle position sensor from a 200 175 v6. Part # 5001793


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    OMC Johnson Evinrude THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR 5001793;
    Removed from a 1998 175HP Evinrude


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    Another eBay entry says "...Fits various Johnson / Evinrude V4 and V6 Ficht / DI engines from 1997 - 2007
    Johnson / Evinrude / BRP part numbers: 439827, 0439827 and 5001793..."

    The 5001793 mounting ears have slots (unlike the round holes on the genuine Polaris TPS), so it would be necessary to figure out how to adjust the TPS physically such that the correct voltage was signaled to the EMM for idle.

    This 5001793 looks like it may well do the job

    Keep in mind that BRP now owns all these brands, so the parts are actually BRP parts, just like the Ficht parts we buy from Polaris

    5001793 is available from boats.net for $57
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    Thats the bugger!!!
    One of my customers has been running one of these tps's for over 2 years and no issues i just set the tps halfway in the slots that was about the same as the polaris one.
    good luck

    Jase

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    Quote Originally Posted by K447 View Post
    Another eBay entry says "...Fits various Johnson / Evinrude V4 and V6 Ficht / DI engines from 1997 - 2007
    Johnson / Evinrude / BRP part numbers: 439827, 0439827 and 5001793..."
    If that's the case then there should be a ton of these out there in outboard bone yards. The '97-'98 FICHT 150 and 175 motors were pressure cookers that were notorious for burning pistons. At any rate, the frequency of blowing up means there are probably a ton of used parts out there to be had if you can find the right shop. But, if they can be had new for under $80 it's probably best just to go that route.

    KJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsonmtz View Post
    ... if they can be had new for under $80 it's probably best just to go that route...
    When you need a new TPS, it probably means you suspect your current TPS has problems. So you really want the replacement to be good.

    A used outboard TPS runs the risk of having its own problems, even if just from sitting around for that long.

    Polaris also updated the non-pigtail TPS (2410127 became 2410183) which I presume means that OMC updated their versions as well.

    OMC actually did much of the original development work for Ficht, and collected some painful field experience from the early FIcht outboard product releases. Eventually the TPS reliability was improved with newer versions for Polaris, and I presume also for the outboards.

    If you can find one, I recommend buying a new TPS.

    If these BRP / OMC / Evinrude outboard TPS fit and work in our Polaris Ficht engines, then I am glad we have that option

    If someone knows of online sellers that actually have inventory, lets add that info to the collection

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    Quote Originally Posted by race jase View Post
    Thats the bugger!!!

    One of my customers has been running one of these TPS's for over 2 years and no issues

    ...I just set the TPS halfway in the slots that was about the same as the Polaris one.
    good luck

    Jase
    Jase, did you have to do any modifications to the plastic nub on the TPS swing arm?

    I see that the OMC version has an extra little plastic piece that sticks out from the nub. Did you trim it off, or did it not get in the way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by K447 View Post
    Jase, did you have to do any modifications to the plastic nub on the TPS swing arm?

    I see that the OMC version has an extra little plastic piece that sticks out from the nub. Did you trim it off, or did it not get in the way?
    Yes i just cut it off and used the plastic piece that slipped over the arm
    i do have these tps's at work but would expect that you can buy them alot cheaper(in the states) than i can sell one for, but if someone wants one let me know
    cheers

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