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    The first picture is a Deutsch male connector.

    The other two shown are Weatherpack type. One male and one female.

    Different connector types. Your cable and your ski will use one type OR the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K447 View Post
    The first picture is a Deutsch male connector.

    The other two shown are Weatherpack type. One male and one female.

    Different connector types. Your cable and your ski will use one type OR the other.
    Yes I know this, and my ski uses the Weatherpack which I have already completed the 9-pin side. What I'm asking is what does the OTHER end of the Weatherpack connector look like? I only see the picture of the wired 9-pin. I do not see the Weatherpack connector completed. Can you please post a picture of what the entire assembled cable looks like? Thanks!

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    You can view what the assembled weatherpack connectors appears as on your 2003 Virage i. Usually hanging over the EMM, is a 4 pin weatherpack connectors connected together. This is the diagnostic connector that your programming cable connects between. You'll open the diagnostic connector and connect your the two ends of your programming cable weatherpack connectors to each half. The white/red wire (+45vdc supply) is fed through the diagnostic connector. They have to be mated to complete the supply path for the +45VDC supply and likewise when you have your programming cable connected.

    As there is a male and a female in the diagnostic connector, you have assembled examples of how your programming cable weatherpack plugs should appear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltlife View Post
    ... my ski uses the Weatherpack which I have already completed the 9-pin side. What I'm asking is what does the OTHER end of the Weatherpack connector look like? I only see the picture of the wired 9-pin. I do not see the Weatherpack connector completed. Can you please post a picture of what the entire assembled cable looks like? Thanks!


    So you have completed the cable per above, with the needed three wires from 9-pin to Weatherpack Male, correct?

    The only other wire is the White/Red which connects between the pin A on both Weatherpack connectors. This is shown as A-----A on the attached diagram.

    On the female Weather Pack of the diagnostic cable there will be three unused pins.

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    That's it! Now I get it. The most confusing part was I thought the column of pics on right side of your original post were the resulting Weatherpack once assembled. But you don't have a picture, I'm guessing because if just following your drawn diagram, it's ridiculous easy and doesn't need a photo explanation. Thanks again! I'm not even doing the work on my ski, I'm just not experienced enough, but the shop that has it doesn't have a cable so I told them just wait...! Will keep you posted, thanks again bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by K447 View Post
    The Polaris Digital Wrench (Windows) and PODIAG (DOS) diagnostic software uses the RS-232 serial port on your laptop to communicate with the EMM module in the Ficht PWC.

    Polaris used two different connector types for the PWC wiring harness. From 1999-2001, the EMM wiring harness uses 4-pin Deutsch connectors where the laptop must connect.

    2002-2004 Ficht machines use 4-pin WeatherPack type connectors where the laptop connects.

    The original Polaris 2872454 cable came with a 9-pin DB-9S connector for the laptop end, and Deutsch DT04-4P and DT06-4S connectors on the PWC end.

    When they changed to WeatherPack 4-pin male and female square connectors on the 2002-2004 models, Polaris issued an adapter cable PW-45776, which converted the communication cable's Deutsch connectors to WeatherPack.

    While this does work, it seems rather clunky, with the unused connectors flopping around.

    Attached are wiring diagrams for building separate Ficht EMM Communications Cables for the Deutsch and WeatherPack versions of the Polaris Ficht PWC. These cables are electrically the same as the Polaris original cables.

    WeatherPack connectors are sometimes called Packard connectors, or WeatherPack P.E.D (Packard Electrical Devices), or Delphi Weather-Pack, or WeatherPak.

    Weather-Pack 4F (Delphi 12015798 )
    Weather-Pack 4M (Delphi 12015024) clip-slot
    Note: Either 20-18 gauge or 16-14 gauge pins will work. I prefer the thicker wire for durability.

    Wire colors do not matter, just be sure you get the pin connections correct on each connector. The 3 wire flexible cable should be several feet long, enough to allow you to position the laptop safely nearby the PWC.

    Do not make the cable excessively long, as electrical interference can cause problems in long cables. Keep the cable well under ten feet total length.

    One source for the 9-pin connector and cable is to buy a six foot 9-pin serial cable with a female connector on at least one end. Cut the other end off, use your ohm-meter to find the wires for each pin, and join them per the diagram.


    The single flexible wire between the two Deutsch or two WeatherPack connectors only needs to be a few inches long. 12 inches would be plenty of length.

    Note: Additional information can be found here;
    How to make the Ficht EMM Service Power jumper (PN 2872456)
    How to read Polaris Ficht EMM trouble codes without special software or a computer
    where it says to use an ohm-meter to find out which wires you need... what wires are you talking about? Also how many adapters do you need because I see you have two on your finished product? Iím just more confused on which wires from the 9 pin connector you need to connect to the 4 pin connector?

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    Quote Originally Posted by K447 View Post
    First two photos are the single wire connection in the Polaris Deutsch type 2872454 communications cable (continuing from the previous post).

    For reference, the next photos are the PW-45776 adapter cable, which is used with an original Polaris 2872454 Communications cable when connecting to a WeatherPack equipped 2002-2004 fuel injected Polaris PWC.
    In the pictures which Adapters are necessary? Im confused because in the first post about the 9 pin connector you used the 4 pin connector and then in this thread you are talking about another adapter? Whatís this other adapter for? When Iím done with the 9 pin connector what do I plug the 4 pin male connector into and female? What are these other adapters for?? Please help thank you

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    Have you read through the entire thread? We did make an effort to include lots of details and hopefully, some clarity.

    There are two wiring diagrams in this post. One diagram for the Deutsch connectors, one if using the WeatherPack connectors.
    http://greenhulk.net/forums/showthre...=1#post1157584

    Background
    Polaris used a Deutsch type connector in the Ficht watercraft wire harnesses until 2001 (IIRC). After 2001 model year the Ficht watercraft have WeatherPack connectors instead. Same location and wiring, just a different connector type. Instead or issuing an entire different cable for the later models Polaris instead sent the dealers a short adapter cable.

    When working on an older Ficht model the original Polaris cable would connect between the watercraft harness and the laptop 9-pin serial port. If the dealer needed to work with a newer model the same original cable was used with the laptop but the short adapter cable was plugged into the Deutsch end, and then the WeatherPack connectors from the adapter were connected to the actual watercraft.

    Since you are making a cable just for your specific watercraft, you donít care about the adapter aspect. Just buy the correct WeatherPack or Deutsch connectors you need to hook up with your modelís wire harness.

    In the watercraft, the diagnostic mating connector pair in the wire harness will be located near the EMM. Easily identified as it will be the only four pin connector pair with only a single White/Red wire on one of the connectors. You pull those connectors apart, then plug them into the mating connectors on the diagnostic cable.

    The other end of the cable goes to your laptop serial port. When making the cable, you wire the serial port end as shown in the wiring diagram. Use your ohmmeter to figure out which wire colors in your particular serial cable go to which pins.


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